Economist slams 'rubbish' risk profiling by advisers

Author: Rahul Odedra
IFAonline | 10 May 2011 | 13:38

Categories: Better Business

Topics: risk profiling| Baillie Gifford

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A leading economist has hit out at the practice of risk profiling carried out by many financial advisers, describing it as “rubbish”.

Speaking at Baillie Gifford's investment conference in Edinburgh last week, Professor John Kay, the founder of the Institute of Fiscal Studies, suggested the models were used to justify decisions already made on other grounds.

Kay, who is currently a director of the Scottish Mortgage investment trust at Baillie Gifford, also dismissed the idea risk aversion could be calculated through a series of questions, the Herald Scotland reports.

He added: "I am not against using these kinds of models as illustrative calculations; what has gone wrong is people believing that they provide an assurance - which not only do they not provide but which no development of these models conceivably could provide.

"What went so badly wrong (in the banks) is that they were the only tools in the armoury of people who didn't understand them in the first place."

In addition to his role at Baillie Gifford, Kay is a visiting Professor of Economics at the London School of Economics, a Fellow of St John's College, Oxford and a member of the Scottish Government's Council of Economic Advisers.

Earlier this year, the FSA warned advisers an over reliance on risk-profiling and asset allocation tools could lead to serious customer detriment.

It reviewed 11 risk-profiling tools and found nine had "weaknesses which could, in certain circumstances, lead to flawed outputs".

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Economist says - must be right then!

Don't you just love economists. Put 10 in a room and get 10 different views. The only science which is wrong all the time but, with the benefit of hindsight, they're always be able to tell you exactly where they got it wrong.

Posted by: Glenn Anderton

11 May 2011 | 11:40
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Risk Profilers are rubbish

they are if you rely on them, they are one tool of which many are needed when assessing clients long term objectives. Use it in isolation then you are an idiot and should not be advising anyone, what the Prof says is correct. How many times do you hear a client say no or low risk but need a net yield of 6 or 7% to achieve their goal! That's when an IFA is worth his time explaining the risk and postioning the client's attitude.

Posted by: Fraser Brydon

11 May 2011 | 11:53
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Risk

I suppose the only 'rubbish' thing about risk profiling is if the advisor leads the client to think that it's an exact science. It isn't and it's in human nature that, when the market has had a good run and all is well in the economy, they have describe a higher yearning for risk and when the market has dropped and times are tough they are suddenly risk averse. I believe that as long as we have described the risk of their investment accurately and they agree to it, then we have done our jobs. Everything else is just a guide.

Posted by: M Green

11 May 2011 | 12:08
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