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The IFA industry has been abuzz this week following a BBC Money Watch programme highlighting the plight of thousands of customers mis-sold a ‘Balanced’ fund by Barclays ‘salespeople’.
Victims also protested at the House of Commons last week in a bid to speed up the compensation process.
Many lost their life savings after Barclays’ advisers recommended they put huge sums of money into the Aviva Global Balanced Income fund. The fund was a high-risk stock market investment but was sold by Barclays to investors with lower risk profiles.
The programme reported on the case of Sue Murton from Aldeburgh who lost £17,000 of her life savings. She went into Barclays looking for a “cautious-to-medium” risk investment and was advised to put £50,000 into the Aviva fund. However, within months, her savings had plummeted.
And she is not alone. According to the BBC, hundreds of customers complain to the Ombudsman every year after receiving shoddy advice from in-branch advisers.
Barclays now says it has agreed a new approach with the Financial Ombudsman Service to handle outstanding complaints with, the majority set to be resolved in the next few weeks.
But the fall-out from this and other high profile cases is set to continue and could even make other people question their banks’ advice. So how do IFAs cope when they try to help new clients who have suffered at the hands of their local bank branch?
Sam Caunt, partner at Northampton-based Kingston IFA, says getting hold of clients’ information is one obstacle.
“You often find clients’ money is tied-up in products, such as investment bonds, which you just can’t touch.
“So when you come to do that client’s risk profile and asset allocation, you find you are really restricted in what you can do,” he says.
“If a significant chunk of the client’s money has been put into high-risk vehicles, you are simply forced to arrange lower-risk options for the client to balance the portfolio. You do not have a great deal of control over what you can do.”
Peter Chadborn, director of IFA firm CBK Colchester, believes banks carrying out poor risk analysis lies at the root of the problems.
“The first port of call for all investment-based advice should be an appropriate analysis of risk and assessment of the client’s tolerance to volatility which doesn’t happen in banks,” he says.
“Most people go into a bank and have just one conversation. In-branch advisers don’t do a detailed enough fact-find and their interpretation of ‘medium risk’ differs from the consumer’s.
“It could be that the material and training about the products is not appropriate enough but it is more likely the adviser doesn’t carry out detailed enough analysis.”
Park House Financial Services’ Richard Davis, the IFA who helped Mrs Murton claim back compensation from Barclays, says the reason consumers turn to banks for their investment advice is the obsolete view these institutions look out for their best interests.
He says this attitude is generational: “It is the elderly who think banks are responsible and venerable institutions with their best interests at heart.
“The majority of people who complain are people at or near to retirement age who have been put in unsuitably risky funds. Young people are more likely to see banks as money supermarkets.
“I get 60, 70 and 80 year olds who say ‘I’ve banked with them for 50 years’ but these people haven’t kept up with the times. The nature of banks has changed.”
Over the last year, Davis has dealt with 80 complaints from disgruntled consumers. His experience has led him to conclude banks should not be involved in investment advice at all.
“Investment advice is all about relationships and when you buy products from a bank there is no relationship. You normally just get put through to a call centre and you get no ongoing counselling if things go wrong.”
Davis believes banks are in a privileged position because they know the financial situations of clients and can pass this information on to their advisers who can push in-house products.
He says: “It is unethical. Customers are treated like tethered goats and eventually they cave in.”
Caunt says problems stem from banks providing advice in isolation. This means a branch adviser sells customers specific products without considering the rest of their circumstances and without carrying out a holistic fact-find.
“Almost all of our new clients come to us with something with the banks where it appears to have been done in isolation,” he says.
Despite efforts by the FSA to improve the standards of financial services, Caunt thinks people will continue to receive bad advice from banks even after the RDR.
“I can see these problems continuing because banks play the numbers game. They sell as much as they can for as little effort as they can.”
Davis believes consumers should be wary of the labels banks apply to products, saying that ‘cautious funds’ are a misnomer.
“Investors need to approach with care anything labelled ‘cautious’. Distribution bonds, for example, are supposedly for ‘cautious’ investors but they have the potential to drop like stones.”
When people concerned about their investment advice from a bank approach Davis, he first carries out a complete fact-find to see if the complaint is valid. He then puts together the complaint to send to the bank. Davis doesn’t charge a fee for this as he hopes his actions will have guaranteed him a new client.
Meanwhile, Chadborn, an ex-Barclays employee, says he wouldn’t get involved if a potential client approached him, unhappy with the advice they had been given by a bank.
“We couldn’t be seen to be enticing a complaint that might not be there. It is potentially not appropriate,” he says.
“The Ombudsman would only ever look at the source of the advice anyway.
“Despite the credit crunch, consumers still trust high street brands and unfortunately they only learn the hard way. People need to distinguish between advisers they pay and advisers employed by banks to flog their products who aren’t working for the client.”
Chadborn says more accountability is needed from the banks because bank advisers will always hide behind their institution.
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Banks' poor advice
I was standing in the queue at my local Barclays branch and overheard the counter clerk ask the lady customer in front if she would like to discuss life assurance with one of their advisers. 'It will only take 10 minutes' she assured her. So there we had at the very first statement the misleading of a customer about something that, if done properly, takes some hours(fact finding,reviewing existing arrangements, considering alternatives, making the application, etc).
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9 yeras ago, after having a large redundancy cheque hit my account, I was invited in to see the banks financial adviser. I went along to see what would happen. I had a 30 minute slot. His opening words were ...have you ever heard of a with-profits bond? Even though I nearly fell out of my seat I sat through a 5 minute explanation of how he was going to relieve me of a large proportion of my wedge. Forget terms of business, business card, fact find any of that. I decided to put him out of his misery and say I was setting up as an ifa....but he wouldn't let go. He kept trying to get my wedge off me. 9 years on it sounds like nothing has changed. Thank God we've got the FSA to stop all these banking excesses or we would be in a right mess....
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I worked as an advisor for a major bank for 3 years until the end of 2008. When I look back now at the way I was made to work it's shocking. The model was a one hour appointment - from meeting the client, through factfinding; risk analysis; product selection; recommendation; key features disclosure; right through to completing the application. No consideration was given to anything other than sales figures. And that's just the advice process, before we've even started on the high-cost, poor performance products. After 18 months as an IFA I can't believe the difference between what I do now and what I did then. I thought I was doing the right thing - I had an immaculate compliance records and did exactly what I was told. It's probably very relevant that I now earn around half what I did at the bank (and no longer have a company car, discounted mortgage etc). Still, I sleep much better.
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I, like IFA, worked for three major Bancassurers over a period of 20 years and have only recently been released from captivity into the world of true, holistic financial planning. In all that time, 12 years as a consultant, I sold less than 10 investments because having fully explained risk and reward to the bank customers, they didn't understand the principles and clearly preferred the relative security of the bank, and their deposit based accounts. The Banks treat TCF with disdain and pay lip service to the FSA. They also treat their 'consultants' with total disregard, forcing them to consistently have 15 appointments each week. The easiest lead identification is from 'the large balance list', hence the majority of leads are deposit customers referred to them 'to get a better rate of interest on your account'. It is production line selling, and until the FSA, government and the public recognise this, and cease this immoral trade, the stream of complaints will continue indefinitely. A previous comment suggested that banks be banned from providing investment advice - the sooner the better. Maybe RDR, with all the pros and cons, might just achieve this. If it does, then it will have been a success for that reason alone.
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I'd like to ask if anyone at the FSA or involved in setting up the new regulatory system, watched that program last week? Because there was no mention of the Ombudsman or FSA at all...where is TCF in all this??!!! Which came out & told people their advice to the public.. is to steer clear of the bank advisers altogether..but will people listen?!!!...Nothing will change for the banks post RDR. They will carry on as normal selling their products to an unsuspecting public, who will never know the difference between restricted & independent advice at all. They don't even ask a customer about their estate value. So they sell them investment bonds & never mention writing them in Trust or anything. Yet one bank still advertises Financial Planning Advice..from the friendly adviser who comes to your home..bla bla bla...
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