ClientView: Why my IFA will be a friend for life

Author: Scott Sinclair
Professional Adviser | 03 Feb 2011 | 08:00

Categories: Critical Illness| TCF

Topics: RDR| ClientView

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One adviser's longest-serving client explains why she hopes her relationship with her IFA will never end...

Mum-of-three Lynsey Haywood could not have foreseen how important her IFA would be when they first met 12 years ago…

Pete Chadborn became my IFA in 1999, when I was 26. He had joined Barclays Life, while I was a personal banker with Barclays. Part of my job was recommending Barclays Life, so I knew there were areas I needed to address. I had children and a mortgage.

Peter is a friend, but it is so much more than that. For whatever financial crisis happens, I will always go to Pete. At that point I had just had my second son so he came to advise us on life cover. We needed a will and I could tell straight away he was not in this to earn commission. My husband started a business, so we went straight to Pete about what we needed to do.

He has never made me feel like I was wasting his time, or like there was nothing in it for him. I didn’t feel like I had to go to him because I was giving him business. I would just run something by him and ask if we needed to see him. For example, I came out of a job, so we looked into death-in-service benefit. He made sure we had sufficient critical illness (CI) and life insurance.

My husband fell ill in 2002 with cancer and I immediately went to Pete. We were financially quite tight at the time because he had stopped working. I had to leave my job the following year because my husband was having a stem cell transplant in London, and I needed to be there. It involved three months of being in and out of hospital.

After the diagnosis, I went to Pete and he told us what we were entitled to. He dealt with the CI claim for us. He said: “Leave it to me”, and that took a lot of worry away for me. I just did not know which way to turn.

My husband died in July 2003 and I can remember travelling back home. There were all these people who needed to be told. I was in such a state and, this may sound ridiculous, but I said to my Mum: “Ring that number and Pete will take care of everything. Tell him what has happened and he will take over,” and he did.

Pete was superb. He kept me informed and told me what I needed to do. Even though we had become friends, he was a complete professional. He told me what I needed to do with the will and the funds, and how to make sure the children were catered for.

At the time, I was simply living day by day, but Pete helped me see the bigger picture. He said: “Look, your children are eight and five. They are not 18 yet, and it is your job to get them there.”

It is a shame everybody doesn’t have a Pete. He is trustworthy and honest. Sometimes you think people are just giving you lip-service, whereas he will just say ‘no’. He will tell me if something isn’t right, and why, and I completely trust his judgement.

I don’t understand why IFAs get the bad reputation they do, especially after the experience I have had with Pete. I feel like if I went to a bigger company, such as Barclays or Tesco, I wouldn’t be a person, but a number.

Pete Chadborn is co-founder of Plan Money

My relationship with Lynsey is a lesson, I think, for those advisers who tend to work more on a transactional basis. At our first meeting, Lynsey said she wanted to review her life and CI cover. I could have gone for the quick sale, next customer. But I encouraged her to take a more holistic view of her protection planning needs, in case her circumstances changed. At the time, we had no idea how much they would change.

I would rather have a collection of clients where we have this kind of relationship than be constantly looking for new ones. When Lynsey needs something, she comes to me, rather than me going to her.

Firms that adopt this approach have been RDR-compliant before the letters RDR were even mentioned. From the outset, we said: “These are your investments, this is what we’re going to do to review them, and this is what we will be getting for it.”

Every client can be a potential Lynsey, but this is where it comes down to how you set the ground rules – I can’t think of a better expression – from the outset. What do you want from us, Mrs Client? This is what we can do for you. Does it fit? But not every client wants this kind of relationship, and not every adviser wants to offer that kind of service.

I guess it is kind of a romanticised picture to view it as the firm saying: “These are the services we offer” and the client saying: “Perfect.” Where it goes wrong is where one party does not feel they are getting value. It could be the customer. Equally, the adviser might say: “I can’t keep fielding calls from this client, because we’re not seeing the right remuneration to deliver that service.”

The sense of reward an adviser gets doing their job could be when you help someone buy their first house. But that pales into insignificance when compared to seeing a protection claim pay out on a policy you put in place.

I still get shivers down my spine when I remember the phone call from Lynsey to say her husband had been diagnosed. To see the protection policy I helped put in place secure the family financially was the best feeling I have ever had as an adviser.

Lynsey Haywood and Pete Chadborn were talking to Scott Sinclair

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Life of an IFA

Now you know what IFAs do. As Pete gets older he will be able to say that Lynsey has been a client for 25 or more years. Again not unusual for an IFA.

Posted by: Harry Katz

04 Feb 2011 | 09:07
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More like this please

Sants, Hoban et al - ARE YOU LISTENING?

Posted by: alan mcclean

04 Feb 2011 | 09:13
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Congratulations Pete

A sad tale well told and a service well provided. As to Mr. Sants and Mr. Hoban they are not listening as they are set on a course to destroy that type of service in the future. Because Pete could not afford to take them on and they could not afford to pay to be taken on. Having destroyed the Home service companies and the customers they encouraged to save long term to create small pockets of capital and help bury themselves with dignity they are set to destroy this type of holistic service and crush middle England in to yet more debt and misery.

Posted by: Mr Fisher

04 Feb 2011 | 10:01
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long serving client.

A story from someone who really does appreciate the efforts of small IFA,s, sorry about the circumstances, but thank you for your comments which despite the bashing by Hoban and the FSA keeps some of us in the industry. Well done and congratulations to everyone. This is typical of the service given to people who are the salt of the earth. Its alright for Hoban and his cronies who mix in entirely different financial circles, they just do not understand how normal people live. Thank you once again for the positive comments

Posted by: terry arch

04 Feb 2011 | 10:59
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Priceless

Good advice like this is the priceless service being delivered on a daily basis by the vast majority of IFA's. IFA's are winning the trust of the nation one person, one family and one business at a time which is why their market share has increased from under 30% 20 years ago to 70% today. Unfortunately too many regulaters and commentators seem know the price of everything but the value of nothing! Well done Pete.

Posted by: Ken Davy

04 Feb 2011 | 11:51
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Hundreds of Happy Clients

All IFAs have stories like this (not wishing to take it away from Pete). The problem is that under data protection and everything else they too often are not publicised. Be it life assurance, critical illness cover, savings, investment or pensions, many are exceptionally grateful for the advice or even the little shove that is sometimes needed to get them to do something. I can tell you about a client who was proposed to a life company and three days later him his wife and daughter were killed in a car accident. The particular company with whom we had insured him made a substantial ex gratia payment as they had the full ability to collect the premium. Neither us or the particular company got any cudos from that but we rest in the knowledge we did a good job. This is just one of many things that advisors could talk about but don't, the papers simply focus on all the bad news and miselling.

Posted by: Bob Donaldson

04 Feb 2011 | 16:13
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a what?

Remember a Customer is someone who the banks target, find 'em and soak 'em and leave 'em in the dark, go and find the next mug. A client is someone who goes to an IFA to be associated with for many years, i treat all my clients as clients, never ever customers....i've been doing this for 30+ years!

Posted by: Fraser Brydon - IFA

04 Feb 2011 | 16:30
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Just out of interest...

...why are all the commentators on this thread suggesting that the RDR will stop this type of service and the story told by Pete? Generically the FSA may well not be fit for purpose, but to drag RDR into this storyline is just ridiculous.

Posted by: Nigel Barker-Smith

04 Feb 2011 | 16:34
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Service

A lot of this service, all part of an IFAs current role, would not necessarily have to be regulated? If you have views to pass on to the Government, write to chairman@conservatives.com

Posted by: John Hooper

07 Feb 2011 | 10:40
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